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Although
the original form is therefore still that of the artist's
own silhouette, his is not a strictly autobiographical
work, but rather a "vehicle" for interrogating
himself on the great existential questions: "sculpture,
for me, uses physical means to talk about the spirit,
weight to talk about its absence, light to talk about
darkness, a visual medium to refer to things that
cannot be seen." (Gormley).
Antony Gormley has created sculptures for major museums
throughout the world, large-scale installations in
Great Britain and abroad, as well as a few of the
most significant public works in recent decades (including
Field for the British Isles, Angel of the North).
Also notable is the artist's participation in the
Venice Biennial and Documenta 8, personal exhibitions
in the major English galleries (including Whitechapel
Gallery, Serpentine and White Cube) and the conferral
of awards including the prestigious Turner Prize in
1994.
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INTERVIEW:
ARABELLA
NATALINI:
I would just start with few very basic questions.
The first one could be you always use the body as
a starting point, and materiality seems to be an element
of a great relevance. So how do you use these elements
in your work?
ANTONY
GORMLEY:
I want to make work that communicates something about
being alive and it seems to make most sense to use
my own existence and my own physical reality as the
subject, the tool, and the material. It's a primary
material.
I'm very interested in making work that in some way
asks questions, and perhaps never gives a complete
answer, but simply by introducing a foreign body into
the body of architecture in some way asks the viewer
on what is she or he in that space.
Anyway to be given a space like this is a miracle,
it's a wonderful thing because increasingly I'm interested
in using architectural spaces as a kind of sounding
board to make in a way the somatic experience of the
viewer more real or amplified. And some how this tower,
this 30 meter high tower, with a very pure relationship
between its volume and its acoustic and its like is
anyway a wonderful context to work with.
This piece is called 'edge' and I suppose it's a re-location
of the body. It's not here in the same terms we are
here. This is a solid iron mass, but I don't care
about its appearance so much, it's an evocation of
whatever that space is when you close your eyes. Where
are you when you close you r eyes? You're in a space,
you're the darkness of the body.
It's very personal, but I don't see my work necessarily
as being a self - portrait. It's simply a particular
example of the human condition, and I want to use
it in some way a space that can be occupied emphatically.
So anybody coming in to this space in some way can
look up and project themselves in imaginatively into
that position.
AN.
I wanted to ask you to give us a brief account of
your working method, how you realise, produce the
sculpture.
AG.
Well, it's very important to me that the sculpture
starts from a point of reality. That means a lived
moment, in real time, in real space. For this work
I tried to imagine what it would be feel like to be
in a kind of weightless position, I mean a weightless
space, and to have all of the tension of the body
inside.
And that is how I work, I stand very still, and for
about 20 minutes it's a matter of will. I'm wrapped
in cellophane plastic, and for 20 min I have to concentrate
very hard, but then it's interesting because this
moment of will then changes, in fact in the complete
opposite. You became, in a way, the prisoner of a
previews moment. And that quite interest me, so it's
like a descent into the condition of the inanimate,
into the condition of the mineral, into the condition
if you like of death.
For me sculpture has to be still, has to be silent,
but has to use silence and stillness in some very
positive way. In this very mobile world in where everything
is visual, I want sculpture to be like an industrial
fossil, that carries within it something about the
memory of human experience.
AN.
Going back to the working process
AG.
Oh yes, sorry, I should speak practically.
So, I'm covered in clean film first, then two assistants
cover me completely from head to toe in jute cloth,
completely impregnated with plaster, and that's laid
on and it takes between 20 min and half an hour, to
put all that on and for the plaster then to begin
catalysing, and then a further half an hour to remove
the mould. For many years I used the mould for the
basis of my work. But now I have made that void solid,
massive. Once that mould has been taken, I make a
fiberglass positive which is then used as a model
and we enclose it again in sand, and then fill that
void, that space inside, with iron.
I hope that this work carries all the story of its
making, you can see the clean film, you can see where
the original mould was cut you can see where the sand
mould was placed together, you can also see there
points, which is where the iron is poured in. And
I didn't want to hide anything, so the surface of
the sculpture birth talks about the moment of its
origin but also the process, the industrial process
of it making
AN.
I don't know if you want to say just few more words
about this particular project; when you came to San
Casciano for the first time, discussing about the
project we saw also other sites and at the end we
discovered this one, and I think this is a great occasion
because the space is fantastic, and also we have the
chance to perhaps save this architecture that might
otherwise have been destroyed..
AG.
What's fantastic about this space, and what's fantastic
about a lot, particularly in Italy industrial architectures
is that they carry an intelligent understanding about
material used absolutely minimally for the maximum
effect.
Anyway the minute that I saw this building, I was
aware that it was unique, it was very precious. This
is post war architecture of the most functional, utilitarian,
but it also has an extreme elegance, I believe, and
has just as much rights to be preserved as Trajan's
column.
It has a very important story to tell about a particular
time in European history. Anyway I'm feeling very
blessed to have being given the opportunity of making
something that is trying to catalyse this space so
that it can become an imaginative space.
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